How I Calculate Legal Fees and
What You Can Expect to Pay
My custom-designed asset protection and estate plans save
you money because you get exactly what you need and you don’t
pay for things you don’t want.
by J.L. Siefers, Jr.
Asset Protection and Estate Planning Attorney
No one likes misunderstandings about fees.
These misunderstandings can be the source hard feelings and
embarrassment for both the lawyer and the client.
I discuss fees openly and honestly, before
you hire me, so you have a clear understanding of the
investment needed to protect your assets and your family. Over
the years, clients have told me they like to learn about fees
in advance. Plus, I know they like the opportunity to ask
questions before they make an important commitment. So here’s
how I handle the subject of fees.
What will my estate plan cost?
Every client asks this question and every client
deserves a straight answer.
Most lawyers answer this question in one of two
ways. The first group says, I’ll quote a fee after we
discuss your estate plan in detail. This doesn’t tell you much.
The second group says, An estate plan for a single person is
$900. An estate plan for a married couple is $1400. And while
this satisfies some folks, often it’s not accurate because most
people’s estates don’t fit into one of these two neat little
boxes.
Here’s what often happens: Lawyers design
basic estate plans to include the documents most people need.
If you’re single, you get package A. If you’re married, you get
package B. Some people pay the package price, and get the
package of documents, even though that package may not provide
exactly what they need. (If you know two people who bought the
same estate plan, you can be sure neither of them got exactly
what they needed, and at least one of them paid for documents
he didn’t want.)
In other cases, lawyers start by giving you a low-ball fee.
Then they add... and add... to your plan until you get what you
want. As a result, the basic plan that you thought would cost
$900 or $1400 might cost $3,000 or $5,000 by the time the
lawyer finishes adding up the costs on his calculator.
In this case, you might think it’s like the car you see
advertised on TV for $9,999. When you go to the dealer, you
discover that the $9,999 price includes the engine and not much
else. If you want a steering wheel, tires and seats, then it’s
$17,999. If you want windshield wipers and a trunk, it’s
$21,999.
And then even if you don’t want this stuff the dealer adds
electric seats, power windows, driver’s seat warmer, electric
trunk latch, extra-shiny sparkle paint, polished chrome wheels,
upgraded tires, and an
electronic/computer/laser/digital/stereo/wave sound system with
speakers under the hood so you can listen to your favorite
music while you change your oil. For these gadgets, the dealer
wants another $18,000. Then the salesperson says, You can buy
this car today for only $39,999. Tax, license and registration
not included. Have you ever heard anything like this before? I
know I have.
So which car do you buy? You don’t want the $9,999 car
because it doesn’t provide what you need. And you don’t want
the $39,999 car because it costs much more than the TV
commercial led you to believe.
The same is true with your asset protection and estate plan.
Either you choose the package at the fee you want, but then
discover that the package doesn’t fit your needs. Or, you
choose the customized estate plan and then discover that the
lawyer charges you triple what you expected to pay. Neither are
good results.
Here’s what should happen: First, you
should get the estate plan that perfectly fits your family,
protects your assets, provides for your spouse and children,
and does everything you want it to do. Second, you should pay
only the exact amount you were quoted, without any additional
costs or fees. And third, you should have a good idea what the
lawyer charges before you meet for your initial discussion.
The Indiana State Bar’s ethical rules for lawyers
require that lawyers base their fees on a number of criteria,
including (1) the time required do the work, (2) whether the
work is routine or complex, (3) the urgency of the project, (4)
the results obtained, and (5) the lawyer’s skill.
Suppose you are a home builder and someone comes up to you
and asks, What does a house cost? You respond, It depends on
what you want. A custom home or a tract home? A Spanish tile
roof or shingles? Top-rated insulation or the bare minimum?
With or without a swimming pool? And so on.
In the same way, the cost of your estate plan depends on
what you want. Consider this example:
Couple A and Couple B are next-door neighbors. They attend
the same church and shop at the same stores. They both drive
late model Cadillac’s. Each couple has an estate valued at
roughly $500,000.
Now, here’s my question for you: If I
design an estate plan for Couple A and Couple B, will their
estate plans be similar? Based on what you know, you would
probably say, Yes, their plans will be similar.
Here is what I discovered when I met with each
couple:
Couple A: The couple are retired and live off the husband’s
pension. They have been married 43 years and have three grown
children. Their house is paid for, and they have a few CDs, but
no other assets.
Instructions: When one spouse dies, they want to leave their
assets to the surviving spouse. On the death of the second
spouse, they want their estate to go to their three children in
equal shares.
Couple B: The couple own a business with another couple.
They have been married 8 years. They have four children from
previous marriages and one child together, who has special
needs. The wife inherited $50,000, which is her separate
property. Each couple owns life insurance with the other couple
as beneficiary. If either spouse dies, the remaining couple can
buy the surviving spouse’s share of the business.
Instructions: When the wife dies, she wants her money to go
to charity. Regarding their joint assets, the couple wants to
give each child $20,000 on the child’s wedding day, and $20,000
on their 10th anniversary. They want their special needs child
to receive care for life. Upon their death, if their older son
gets out of prison, he gets dad’s travel trailer. Their older
daughter gets mom’s doll collection. The younger son receives
dad’s golf clubs. And the younger daughter gets mom’s antique
clock. What’s left in the estate is then divided equally among
the children, after caring for the child with special
needs.
Summary: The couple’s homes look alike.
Their cars look alike. Their assets have similar value. But
their estate plans are completely different because their
circumstances and needs are completely different.
Lesson: People can look pretty much the
same even to the point of having estates of equal value. But
their estate plans could be vastly different in both complexity
and cost.
When a lawyer offers a package price, you can be sure all
his clients get pretty much the same thing, regardless of
whether they want it or need it. And if the lawyer is willing
to customize the plan and provide better service, some of his
clients pay a much higher fee than they expected to pay.
I know that people don’t like financial
surprises. During our meeting, as I learn more about
your family’s needs, I’ll explain the best way to protect your
family. Together, you and I will build your custom asset
protection and estate plan exactly the way you want it. When
we’re done, I’ll quote your fee to the penny. If it falls
outside this range and this is rare it will be because we
discovered important issues that we didn’t anticipate but still
need to address to protect your assets and your family.
To give you an idea of what increases the complexity of
estate plans and often increases the fee here are subjects that
your custom asset protection and estate plan should
address:
Do you and your spouse have unequal estates? Is this a
second marriage for either spouse? Do you have children from a
previous marriage? Does any child or spouse have special needs,
such as a mental or physical disability? Does any child or
spouse have problems with drugs or alcohol? Does your estate
include issues that relate to retirement planning? Do you have
a taxable estate valued at between $650,000 and $1,300,000? Do
you have a taxable estate valued at over $1,300,000? Does your
estate include any generation-skipping issues? (They could
result in additional taxes up to 55% if not properly designed
into your estate plan.) Does either spouse want to control the
distribution of what is left to the survivor after his or her
death? (If so, this requires a QTIP trust.) Do you need to
adjust your estate plan so you can receive government benefits
for a spouse or handicapped child? Do you need to do Medicaid
planning so your estate qualifies for government benefits? Are
you self employed? Will we set up a business succession plan
along with your estate plan? Do you need a life insurance
trust? Are you interested in educating your heirs, which you
can do through the use of an education trust? Do you want to
provide for the care of your pets? Do you want to protect your
assets for your heirs and keep them away from the IRS,
creditors, and future ex-spouses? Do you want to safeguard your
assets so they are not wasted due to someone’s inexperience? Do
you want to leave money to a charity? (If so, you might benefit
from a charitable trust.) Do you have an unusual plan for
distributing assets to your heirs? Is your distribution plan
built on multiple contingencies. (For example, if this happens,
this I want this to happen. If this doesn’t happen, they I want
this to happen.) And so on.
The more of these factors that are present, the more complex
your estate plan. And, understandably, the more time and skill
your lawyer needs to make sure everything is handled correctly.
As you can see, the size of the estate doesn’t matter. But the
size of the estate often causes more of these factors to be
present.
Your lawyer needs an extremely high level of knowledge,
skill and experience to examine each issue and create the plan
that best addresses these important subjects. Not surprisingly,
most people including insurance agents, investment advisors,
financial planners, and many lawyers don’t understand these key
issues. And, in fact, often, they don’t even know the right
questions to ask!
One example of terrible planning is when people try to
provide for a child with special needs. Believe it or not, some
lawyers suggest that the best thing you can do is to disinherit
the child to avoid disqualifying the child from government
benefits.
But the truth is, you have a much better option, and it’s
relatively easy. You simply set up a trust that provides the
extras you want the child to have. The trust does not
disqualify the child from receiving government aid. The worst
result is when the parents and their lawyer try to help the
child and, without realizing it, inadvertently disqualify the
child so he receives no government aid at all.
Other examples of poor planning abound:
For example, statistics prove that 98% of people who receive
life insurance proceeds do not have any of the money left just
two years after they received the funds. You can prevent this
problem by explaining in your estate plan how, when and to whom
you want insurance proceeds paid.
Other events can also make a dramatic impact on your assets
and your family. They include disability, illness, divorce,
remarriage, blended families, lawsuits, creditors and
bankruptcy. You and your lawyer can address all these
situations, and more, in a carefully designed asset protection
and estate plan.
As you consider whom you will hire to set up your estate
plan, keep in mind...
J.L. Siefers' Seven Laws of Estate
Planning
Law #1: At best, you get what you pay for. You never get
more than you pay for. And you often get much less.
Law #2: If you have your estate plan prepared by anyone
other than an estate planning lawyer, you deserve what you
get.
Law #3: If the lawyer’s low fee looks good to you, he
probably left something out.
Law #4: If you decide not to spend over $1000 on your estate
plan, you should buy a book for $29.95. Because when you
discover that your estate plan doesn’t work, you’ll be much
happier if you’ve wasted only $29.95 than if you had wasted
$1000.
Law #5: You’ll never know how good your estate plan really
is until you are disabled or dead. And then it’s too late.
Law #6: The people who will most appreciate the money you
invest in your asset protection and estate plan are your spouse
and children. It’s the greatest gift you can give your
family.
Law #7: If you think hiring a skilled estate planning lawyer
is expensive, wait until your spouse and heirs pay the costs of
not hiring one: Estate taxes, probate, quarrels, guardianships,
conservatorships, unintentional disinheriting, problems with
joint tenancy, and more. Hiring a skilled, experienced estate
planning lawyer is the best investment you’ll ever make.
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